Sumljivo za simbol SLO

Torek, 7. november 2006

Natečaj za nov simbol Slovenije je bil morda lažiran in je na podlagi očitnih dokazov vsaj sumljiv.

Pop TV je na podlagi notranjih informacij že v včerajšnji oddaji 24ur poročal, da je Urad vlade za informiranje (UVI) na natečaju za simbol Slovenije izbral projekt agencije Nuit z logom in sloganom I FEEL SLOVENIA.

UVI bo rezultate natečaja sicer predstavil v petek na tiskovni konferenci, Pop TV pa se je do informacij dokopal slučajno ali kot naročnik taiste agencije, ki je izdelala online uredniški sistem za 24ur.com.

Dizajn in aplikacije slogana I FEEL SLOVENIA si lahko ogledate tukaj. Ups! Pravkar so sneli predstavitev projekta z interneta. Pred petimi minutami je še bila tukaj.

No, tole je T-shirt, ki sem ga hvala bogu prej downloadal:

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Very funny, če mene vprašate, kreativno pa seveda še tem bolj.

Rok za oddajo projektov za ta natečaj je bil 4. september 2006. Zdaj pa si poglejte fotografijo, ki jo je posnela FA Bobo na Kredarici 1. septembra 2006, na kateri je skrajno levo tudi premier Janez Janša s čepico, ki ima nad šiltom izvezen natanko ta logo!

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Predsednik vlade se je udeležil prireditve “Vrh na vrhu”, na kateri je med drugim Zavarovalnica Triglav predala dobrodelni ček Društvu onkoloških bolnikov Slovenije.

Da ne bo dvomov, še fokus na premierovo čepico:

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Nad natečajem je zaradi strokovnih nejasnosti in pomanjkljivosti že ob razpisu negodovalo združenje grafičnih oblikovalcev Fundacija Brumen, njeni člani pa so napisali tudi javni apel. Tudi sam sem o tem pisal kolumno za Dnevnik (088-100806.pdf).
Ko to pišem, je spletna stran Urada vlade za informiranje nedostopna, sicer bi objavil tudi link na besedilo natečaja. Če bo pozneje kaj več sreče, to je to.

Na podlagi tega, da je premier že pred iztekom natečaja nosil kapo s sloganom, ki je v nadaljevanju zmagal, sicer ne moremo zatrdno sklepati, da je bilo vse odločeno že vnaprej — lahko si pa to mislimo. V vsakem primeru je to zelo nehigienično. Odveč je poudarjati, da razpisni pogoji od prijaviteljev niso zahtevali, da skupaj s projektom do roka oddajo tudi že aplikacije simbola in logotipa, na primer baseball kape.

Očitno je bil simbol oz. logo v uporabi že pred iztekom natečaja. V razpisnih pogojih ni bilo omenjeno, da bi prispele idejne rešitve morale biti nove oz. še ne videne. To je sicer čudno, ampak kaj hočemo, tak je bil pač natečaj. Najbolj čudno pa je seveda to — če je simbol že bil v uporabi —, da je aplikacije z njim nosila na glavi ravno vlada!

Zdaj sem končno dobil tudi direktorja UVI Gregorja Krajca. Povedal mi je, da so bile kape in majice s sloganoma I FEEL SLOVENIA in SLOVENIA, VIDI, VICI v uporabi že pred natečajem, saj so jih odkupili kot promocijski material. Po Krajčevih besedah je premier Janša nosil kapo z napisom I FEEL SLOVENIA zgolj slučajno. To, dodaja Krajc, pa tudi nima nobene zveze z izidom natečaja.

To je sicer možno, kljub temu pa meče slabo luč na postopek izbire.

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  1. london london pravi:

    V zacetku oktobra, je STO organiziral predstavitev Slovenije tukaj v Londonu. Med promocijskim materialom so bile tudi te majice in odziv je zelo pozitiven. Torej se strinjam z Markom, da je zadeva posrecena. Sam natecaj in nacin izbire le-tega, pa je tako kot se mnogo kaj drugega spretno zavit v “celofan” in vsi napori, da bi zadevi prisli do dna so tako brezpredmetni. To je pac nacin delovanja trenutne oblasti, kateri sem imel vsaj do sedaj obcutek, si bil ravno ti Marko mnogo bolj naklonjen kot prejsnji. Lahko bi veckrat opozoril na stevilne milo receno – cudne odlocitve v zadnjih dbeh letih…

  2. nordstar nordstar pravi:

    Sem že malo utrujen od teh spletk. Sem tudi ssam enkrat “not padel”. Ko je bil natečaj za zastavo, sem krepko “zastavil” in bil z delom zelo zadovoljen. Malo manj nad rezultati, zgrožen pa, da mojega dela sploh ni bilo na razstavi. Ko sem delo dobil nazaj, je bilo označeno: “napačna šifra – izločeno”. Pri šifri sem namreč namesto šestih znakov napisal samo pet (nekako tako).

  3. nordstar nordstar pravi:

    Sem že malo utrujen od teh spletk. Sem tudi sam enkrat “not padel”. Ko je bil natečaj za zastavo, sem krepko “zastavil” in bil z delom zelo zadovoljen. Malo manj nad rezultati, zgrožen pa, da mojega dela sploh ni bilo na razstavi. Ko sem delo dobil nazaj, je bilo označeno: “napačna šifra – izločeno”. Pri šifri sem namreč namesto šestih znakov napisal samo pet (nekako tako).

  4. Samo pravi:

    Zanimiva je primerjava s Češkim razpisom, ki jo lahko preberete na http://www.dmagazin.si/

    Osebno me žalosti dejstvo, da na tako ne zgolj nestrokovnem, ampak že kar diletantskem razpisu sploh sodeluje kakršnokoli podjetje, ki se ukvarja z oblikovanjem.
    Po drugi strani nas je resnično veliko, ki smo se principelno odrekli sodelovanju, kar vsaj vzbuja upanje za učinkovito združevanje in nastopanje oblikovalcev v prihodnosti. In tu ne mislim institucionalno, ampak etično in načelno.

  5. mijau pravi:

    I feel manipulated.

  6. pet-in-g-seks pet-in-g-seks pravi:

    tudi sam sem se – na humoren način razpisal o tej temi, naslov mojega prispevka je Slovenija je ljubezen, ljubezen je Slovenija:
    http://seks.blog.siol.net/2006/11/07/slovenija-je-ljubezen-ljubezen-je-slovenija/

  7. pet-in-g-seks pet-in-g-seks pravi:

    za vsak slučaj dodajam še link iz ona-on.net:
    http://www.ona-on.net/clanek.php?parentid=45&subid=46&articleid=1659

  8. commonsense pravi:

    če bi bil še čas, bi predlagal SlovenIIIJAAA. bi vsaj vsi ljubitelji konj(ki jih poznajo s spota na cnn) prišli v lipico in bi se naučili golfa, pa bi bi si vsi v sloveniji naročali brejčevske metuljčke (jebi hrvaške kravate!!)in si pri popovičevem frizerju naročali janša frizure.tako bi slovenija postala zares prepoznavna!!!!

  9. had had pravi:

    najboljsi slogan bi bil: “ne prihajajte v slovenijo” ampak na zalost ni zrastel na mojem zeljniku :)

  10. majakrizaj pravi:

    V kompliciranju smo že tako posebneži N1,pa naj bo to prepevanje ali poskakovanje, sicer pa je ideja in izvedba simpatična in sprejemljiva, vse čestitke.

  11. Blodnje, fleši, tripi in psihoze!!! pravi:

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  12. u462 u462 pravi:

    eh ja, saj ni panike.
    Čez leto ali dve bo SLO itak neuporabna kratica in jo bo zamenjala SVN.
    Upam, le, da bo JJ takrat prišel do leta 1947, ko je revolucija žrla svoje otroke.

  13. zolja pravi:

    Heej Crnkoviću. Zdej vem kam pes taco moli. Ti bi rad bil odgovorni urednik Dela. Ali pa za začetek Demokracije.

  14. majakrizaj pravi:

    Ja, če bi pa to dosegel, potem pa obljubim, da bom postala naročnica kar obeh časopisov, ha,ha….

  15. bane pravi:

    dvomim v anonimnost predlogov (predvsem zmagovalnega), če je naročnik ta predlog že imel naročen!
    Zakaj delati razpis na katerem zmaga izdelek, ki ga že imaš..
    V razpisni dokumentaciji je tudi napisano da mora biti slogan v slovenskem jeziku in angleškem jeziku…
    Kako se nov slogan potem glasi v slovenskem jeziku?

    JAZ ČUTIM
    SLJUBEZENIJO?

    PS: čez par let ko bo verjetno nov razpis pa imamo že potencijalnega zmagovalca…
    sloVENIja
    VIDI
    VICI
    Seveda naročnik bo tudi takrat anonIMEN

  16. matjazgerm pravi:

    Tale sloganček je popolnoma grd in natančno odraža sta je slovenske kreatvinosti- je približno tak kjer je tatoo muze v pesmi bigfootov!!!!

  17. london london pravi:

    http://www.dnevnik.si/novice/slovenija/210620/ – vidim da zadeva postaja vse bolj in bolj zanimiva – in kje se bo ustavilo? :)

  18. mrobert mrobert pravi:

    Ma ni tko slabo! Vsekakor je lepo poudariti besedo LOVE! Smo edina država na svetu, ki ima to besedo v imenu države. :-)
    Problem je edino to, da je to (vsaj če sledimo medijem) samo beseda. Torej, samo še pometemo z raznoraznimi t.i. novinarčki in ostalimi medijci, ki bi naj bili za zgled vsem ostalim in to je to.
    VOLITVE ZA NOVINARJE!
    bdw, oblikovalsko bi bil lahko lepše narejen logotip.

    mR

  19. bninooo pravi:

    ker sem aktivno sodeloval na natečaju, kot predlagatelj slogana, sem poskušal spremljati dogajanje. ob vseh peripetijah okoli pristopa in načina izvedbe razpisa ter sestave žirije imam še par pripomb. ena redkih opredelitev oz. zahtev je bila uporabnost na vseh področjih: turizem, gospodarstvo in kulturi. neke posebne vrednosti za promocijo na področju gospodarstva s tem sloganom ne opazim (to je bilo sicer po mojem vprašljivo tudi pri mojem predlogu – z zelo podobnim konceptom). druga zelo poudarjena zahteva je bila anonimnost. po končanem (predolgem!) procesu izbiranja sem dobil celo obvestilo po pošti. tam je bilo med drugim navedeno, da je bilo več predlogov izločenih iz izbora zaradi razkritja identitete predlagatelja. kako je možno, da niso izločili tudi te rešitve, če je vsaj en član žirije, G. Krajc že kupil to idejo prav za “svoj” urad. če pa bi razmišljali, da je lahkop isto rešitev predlagal še kdo, pa bi morali še prej odstopiti od nje zaradi problemov avtorstva.
    mogoče sem pa samo pristranski in me razjeda foušija, ker nisem bil izbran… vam bom zaupal svojo rešitev, ampak drugi teden, ko bo mimo tiskovka in bomo vedli, če mogoče celo razpis pade. pol mam še šanse :-)

  20. london london pravi:

    Ja, odvisno od medijske gonje! :) Ce se bo nadaljevala, v kar seveda dvomim ker je itak vecina urednikov “njihovih”, potem bo cela zadeva sla na “prvo stopnjo”, kar pomeni ponoven razpis. Seveda pa mocno dvomim v to.

  21. zolja pravi:

    HEJ ljudje. Tale kapa na JJ-ju ni nič drugega kot sporočilo, da je zaljubljen. – i feel love.

  22. bodoo pravi:

    Ker je slogan tako samosvoj in globalno razumljiv, se ne bom upiral, da povem, da je tudi zelo odprt in ponuja cel kup mutacij. Iz glasbene zaloge bi ga lahko v prihodnosti nadgradili v BYE BYE SLOVENIJA (Simon & Garfunkel, Everly Brothers), z malim poipravkom imena državice (očitno ne bi bil tako hud davek) v I FEEL LIKE SLAVENIJA, ali pa ga samo poudarili z verzom iz istoimenske pesmice UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I FEEL SLOVENIJA. Gotovo se da iz tega izvleči še veliko več.

  23. bodoo pravi:

    Ne, ne, takole, UUUuuuuUUuuuUuuuuUUU I FEEL sLOVEnija UuuUuu, bolj kot volkovi. Custva so namreč že v “originalu” z veliko vstavljena v misel.

  24. tomilaptos pravi:

    Marko, dva predloga zate kot urednika:
    -današnji bloger dneva ni polinkan pravilno
    -bi se lahko naredil arhiv “Blogov dneva”, ker tisti, ki ne spremljajo Blogosa dnevno, potem kakšnega zamudijo?

  25. pet-in-g-seks pet-in-g-seks pravi:

    upam, da bo tokrat link delujoč, tekst je humorno-seksi:
    http://seks.blog.siol.net/2006/11/07/slovenija-je-ljubezen-ljubezen-je-slovenija/

  26. Alma pravi:

    Ogabno, res, me pa niti najmanj ne čudi. Pravzaprav me ne bi čudilo niti, če bi se izvedelo, da se je Janša s svojo damo (in le nekaj dni pozneje še s kapo) v javnosti pokazal le zato, da bi propagiral nov (bedast in povsem neizviren) slogan …

  27. Simon Simon pravi:

    Slogan niti ni tako slab, sploh če je zapisan z belimi črkami na črnem ozadju. Mene bolj skrbi predlagan logotip. Če sem danes pri tv dnevniku prav videl, spominja na kakšen znak vaškega gasilskega društva. Ogenjček na modrem ozadju. Spodaj bi moralo le še pisati: “Na pomoč!”.

  28. pet-in-g-seks pet-in-g-seks pravi:

    simon, se strinjam. logotip je čista katastrofa. kaj je sploh to? čud’n zmazek nečesa? glej tole novičko: http://novice.siol.net/default.aspx?siteid=1&pageid=2&article_id=12061110010810101&cid=100&pgn=1

  29. commonsense pravi:

    zame najboljši komentar je št.15, bane. čestitam

  30. Samo pravi:

    Hahaha: http://www.dmagazin.si/
    (se opravičujem, ker že drugič pišem isti link – je pač nova vsebina)

  31. deyo pravi:

    simbol slovenije bi moral biti s črno poševnico prečrtan – prepovedano kurjenje v gozdu !

  32. Ninočka Ninočka pravi:

    Čisto tako, v Hri-bar-u (11.11.2006) je bil dober štos na ta logo, in sicer sta Peče in Podobnik imela internacionalno trgovino majic z napisi: I feel (s)PAIN, I feel (sw)EDEN, I feel HUNG(a)RY in še nekaj se mi zdi…

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